TAPE No.1/ a Mrs FERRAIOLI 16th JUNE 1992 ✓ TAPE No.1/b Mrs J. McLAREN 30th JUNE 1992 TAPE No.2/a TAPE No.2/b TAPE No. 3/a TAPE No. 3/b TAPE No. 4/ a TAPE No. 4/b TAPE No. 5/a TAPE No. 5/b 9 \\�.-��5� �o� Mrs Mary BRYSON 161hJUNE1992 ✓ \'.) [ - \'5 and Mrs Nan DENT Mr. David BOYLE Miss Betty ROY Miss Betty ROY Mrs BRAID Mrs BRAID Mr. James M. ROY Mr. James M. ROY Pt-P\l 13th OCTOBER1992 ✓ 10th NOVEMBER1992 8th FEBRUARY1993 j 8th M ARCH1993 •i.. How 1 Ot',g cl id yoa l :i.ve -�: :�:· ·2':' (\1)Qttt f+ ◊'i' 5 16_,t,.c(''{, [,"t}\{.\ rl-l2.i,'\ i-{)L �11,..../&t ·U, ;Ji'E•-t..:J ClJ 3:!, T :9,�e ''!�:.·� <'l1.\i te ·" .!fett:. 11.oltie.s - ;_12:::·:lc i\11&$ tlq rAll re..t�,ted\ - inter-•J;:;,..:-ri er1' 0� b..'Je hv�dl n� i,Ut.tii t �$' &2., t:h.�!l ·�itft, l\\l-Ve'QI fo oU.r _f1 t·�-r Ji1ed:v"ic -h.c1� i� Stirling Street. n. How ,;,nny were ttere 1n your fa�1ily'J 8 of us, 5 girls �-tl".rl 3 hoys. Hy oldest hroti·'.er w&.s 1·illec 4 i!!i 1936 Ol!i. a •·•otor bike a.i:d DY youl':'-gest sister died 3 •·wntt.s lat�r fro'!l dipht'.:eria. T.nere was quite a lot of cUp} 1 t�1eria in-:tru� vill.;ge at t)rn.t time. Thf>n we nwved fro!!l Stirl i:nq: Street to Wigton 'Plrcce. It wes [;l liir-;/)'er house. Wt�t w�re t�e facilitjes ljke jn the origi�bl �oose? slept np i:l)ld down : = n,ct across t�.e w"cty. C11tsi('l':' toilets, ,! wast-bouse. We n:-:ed to go into the wash-hou.E'e to boil water in ti .. e boil€r to :.,we your hat11. {}_. No w£,ter in the soPse'! ti.,e close Lere - yc,u Lmow wl::ere the :�ousc-;; 1::1 tl::e l,lain Street f,re. '!\;,ere Wl'IB a well there, , ., __ d we hhc! hDlters we put on :;p_t'l 2 p,•ils ,�N1 c«rrjN1 it. rt� a Su:!'lclay nig.:k.t t:,e-re was� queue. Yore ,:c-i: tc, wait '(Our -t r ,ru, :cp.,} we Q. \,fas t!-·tis a spri.ng'? It wa.s ,,,ctually a well t�.:•t w«.s hti:i l t. i:t::to t,·�e w,;l l. I ;- !:.lve no ider, w,,ere tJ.-e wat.er cane from, but we i:ill w;,:lked to tte Cisi.er;,1 r;:;rt-: 2nd ,,rot our t',2 c!mrch lrn.11 - i,ot th,,t L�,.lJ. bnt ti::e one opposite wtere the parlour ii:t ti::a.t w::ts our Paris:,. church i,·:.11, t•·::,t w,-,:E ,.t:,;;1.·e ,.,c W•"Jt t'.l Su.111c1'1v Sctool � for yeilrc,; a.me! ye;,:.r·s 1-lie • Mr. �, Nrs. fgilvi e were here. farery ui.'rht t.,i:;,.;:-;t. w:,s We ve:mt to Cn"tlwrnauld }-r:im�•.ry Sc!�ool, l e,· we ;-,;:,.rl i !1C' ,·jrr,,,_ r 5.rr;, e :il"' the school n t ,c, tut t:in<'!. :fo :\jd not l:i.,ive to /YO to LeJZi<'- or "�wt.ow)';. \fo ('id 01,r lust t:1ree ye;;.rs ::..t Crm11,er,J.aulrl. T· ey ti.:t-n sto 1,cc tr,c·t ,rnd we h&c! to �o to I er1zie after t.t'.at., but .uot in my time. he just fi�is1ie,1 ou:c s��ooli�1 �t Gu�bernauld. O. Wnere did you go from �chool? _,.. I ttarted to work first fr. 1/atsom' s the bi,.kl"r i� /'l•,i!:1 St.rc-;_,,t i1-i Cur'bf'r;-.wuld. _()___ Tt1ere was l'lOt u1.1c:; \•'orl, .··.r1Lv,-' \el'-= ::.. ,,.:rt J: :<1 1 s e1· v -L��. I worl:�d t; ere for 2 or- } yea.rs. .r,ft0r L ..c,t it WilS the !"l 1ustrial Drick.vrork, .. rnci I wor!.:erl at Castle Cary in Weirs U}1tii. } w.;s 1::arried. Jo.i.m Weir w2.s •01LLrriet� to a Hy Lush:nd, l':e \fr,s fro:i,1 BPBkuock. duy I went to see about ::::ettJFf_)' a j0t J �,et t:.js lad 01< the railway bri<\f?;e. You h&{1 to cros8 ther.:ri1'M_y Lo _::::et--irrl�i,tl----e---Ca:ry P.rie-i:fworl." f , ,l�s W,lS .�oing � ..cross the bridge Li'f'.t. ,:n-,t I n;et this 1�,c1 �•11e1 I .,.s!djng· tl.e t•Bcl.ines. ]f it w... 1s Ll,e bi:i r.'F.!.n fro1�1 th'! villng;e, Jiiwny C;:iir11.s, Jii·u,y ke!;t p�.1tti:••\: ple:,ty w.,.ter ,l,t -�;d it ke:rt it rlmn, 1.;nt so:11e of the re-st wouLt itOt ..lo it -:..id it c31.s tl\e bric:.{s rearly to go out,, ,1nd I pucked tr·e1r1 in.to t:�€ rc::ilway cnrriage ) Were t.lley sent al 1 over the pL:c e? All over the place. Ti,ey went abroad and everywhere. ,c,j l\- \ T,;e ship th.st went down during the war we .\w.d &.!:t order on tr1at shir�. It was not a nice environneat to worb: in. J.ctually they used to call r,1e the Jane Tart. It was rough, ane sr,.i,1 to :te t, cone in and listen to ; er. He Had i er up ()ll the pli:tform sing:ing. :•e w,A'. wonrlerful ::w:\ so was _,i•, wife. Everyt;.ing w, s free. You ,v·ere sllc,wed to bring i"•artners to the Q. Where did you go to live when vou i!Ot married': 'I• What date would th,.t be? A. 1941 - the yeHr of the ClydeLMk r;litz. �ly husband worked in the Carron Iron \Vorks. ,·e wLs at the munitions at t�:;;;.t time, on the night shift, because I reme;rt�1er we were ,.11 up in the woods out of t!1e lwnses Uwt night becc.use the :)lanes were going ri,T,ht over above us and we c oulrl '1ctually see ti.le bor:hs dro,,ping from the t,·p of the hill, w,·ere t!).e new ta-;vn is I!OW, I lived in Parkview. Mx-. Henderson, rte lived ii.:, t-,e big l1ouse 'P,-rkview", it's gone too now, It wE:s wuere the complex is, on tile opposite side of the complex. 'i' J ,cre w«s one wee honse, tr,D.t w;;.s �ictnally my lwuse, tLat wa.s left to me, well it w:�s not left to !.1e. It wr..s an old ·11an who lived in it, Mr. Mowat, �-nc. b.e was my Fa.ther-in-1:lw's half cousin, far out, and my fnti'er-in-lc.w sr,id to me th&t he wa.s the next c,f kin, hut if I looked £'.fter l1i.m, which I did until he ,1ied, the house would he mine, but they put a demolition or·ler on it at t 1 "1Pt time 2ncl .\rchie Johnson took it over • .'rc:;ie's son is in it now. 'Hiey reconditioned it, bu{:. L1ere was .1 '.i,,ppy chance from ttrnt for t,•ere was a two-storey, big building a.long L:.ere - yon lmcn,; Madge SNith, she goes to the church, Ma.nJe use,: to get then all in the village. Jf we wmrt to g:o to Honl-..1.::tu.ds :Uospi tal we : ave to �o to tbe l'own Centre to get the Honklands bus, Nothing here, nothing at all. 'l'here is another thing too I protested n Lout nuite cf ten. It is the cemetery. They built a ne,-1 cemetery c.t East:field. You can't ,fo to it unless you ::iave a car. Yon can't w;dk to it. Q. Is the cemetery in the village not used? ;�. It is finished bec&use m_-," husband coi ..ld not get in Lere. Ffe h&,d to go to Eastfield. We userl to wc:lk regularly. You were t.at�ing your life in your hands along the m·•-e:, \ t+ I J I I 11.. Gt:.r ,.:,liday was a Sunday School Trip - the liorse zn.l c:1rt, t.b:.·I:. w&s our annual liolic1ay. We nsed to h,' ve the Sunday �chcol 'trip, anc� 7. the farmers all brought horses and carts, all ,leco ,:ated. C8stle Cary pond was one of the f;_wouri te places or up to Mrs. Steel's or Harry Taylor's at Kildrum. n 'l'hese were .111 f2.rms? A. Yes, ancl :1on _got your h8g t•·:ere. 1;. Is tD.at tne f&rm t::i•it fa nr.w Willow Bank? ·°'· Yes, ti",t1.t is Kildrum. �ly Motirnr worlced at tt1at farm for }0./40 years. Sl1e actually cle&ned. hy Hotber used to s�y 1-rs. ·1'c1.yJ.or ,..,as a hypocl10ndriac. t1 1 y }fother worl,ed inside tmd ;;lso did f•: rm wor:, outside. 'fl.ie only ·U:,in,;: I non' t tiiink sue went to was the ;}ot:,.toes, ,,nt s!H, did all ·tile t.a.rvest. O. What kind of job did yonr 1?ati:i.er lrn.ve? !.'-... He was a ruilwt 1 y r.lan for ye.:.rs. Hy bro t .ller, Joi::.n, w.:s a r&ilwEty man too on r:1 different part of the line. j,iy F';;,t�,er We..� from CUJ;1bernc:uld station rlovm to what we c>::'..llerl tl1e White Glen - t.t:-t was w,"ere we used to spend our summer t..:ilid,:�ys. Now you c&n't go to it ejther. C. Now, where [ig, olcl t·ouse t;:,ere and i;uilt tl:e school. I cleaned that place for l 1 udley, and ti,en there ,,•&;; anot.i:!.er young :',ctually, Mrs ParJ.:er a.net carteen. The Cor!'tn·at.ion workers cs:-•e int-:, tbe Spur ;-·ote] for tbeir lunch when t:1e new town was befr,g bujlt at f'iret z,nd Glas�ow Cor1rnr£-tion subsiilised the .rt to cban:Ie the villag:e'? Wh<':.t. did you :10 :.ice first'? Was it shors closing':' ;\. It did muke a difference t.o the snops, one Ly one t.l1e }Akis1,anis car,ie in, but I wouldn't say I-e,o.w m11ch t1ifference. .:-.1.e Q. The Co-operRtive use� to be here? Tbat was the liiggest mystery in Cur.obernau1d - why they closed our Co-q,er.:; tive. It was always busy. l'-:oiJocly cot.ld 1..:nrierstc:nd wty we lost our Co-operative. You nad to ,"l' to tl;_e t'o-wn Centre :tor stiopping &:fter ttiat. Yon couldn't p&.y the private trfiders. I often tbink t:(ey just t1:ink of a num!�er .:.nd st.id� it on. You don't mind '-'- penny or tuppence, i)nt it is ridicnlons w;wt we r:re pc,� 1 in�; for tbirnrs in the vill,.ge. What about funeral services in the village? T!,ere was the one joiner. In tuese d&_ys tu,-t. wou1,1 was murried at first wLen I was only 25, Lui; in later yer,rs it WES the Co-operative if you ha(1 ,-� death in the village. <). This gtd bns-.�-1 '- r+on.- 1 t Jmow if -1:i.y�od¥- fa,.l.d-_i.ou r,Jiout__n lcl_ Tom White -from the st&tion, -�.�-,e E11sy-Osey bus. lJe was grer,t. ,:e did that, rnn ::::nd then lie used to (ao the i-un to KiL-;yth rid,nre · nnse on ;;,. Saturday night, f,nt, t.l",e l,est of t.l:e lot was Joe Sommerville. On a Sunday the agreement was if it wae a n:ice da.y l:!e woulrl be down at & certain time and t.:.ere would Le a tus run. Some Sund::.ys it wP.s Bnrntisland, some Sund.ays it Whs Fa;;nysir1e, ot ..er ti!l:es it wonld be ;1._·;_;er;;our. We rn,ed to go to Purntislcind on a Sm1da.y af, er.ooon, and t!,js is old n10ney I am tulking about, ::.:or 1/- :for parents, {:;cl • .for c.tilcJren, but w!,en you got to the i;ill going up into �,,irntisl&nd tlie parents .'·11-,.d to co11:e out the l..>us filld. help it i.:1, t.l',e i1iil. 'l'net was tne agree!;;ent every Sund,,y. You just ;:::;.e;hed yonr l1tid-c':::;.y me�l rev.dy t(1 ,'-o ;:;.nd you c,J•�e C:.own and it was always packed. There used- Lo Le fignts fol' seats tor 3 or 4 children. It WLS just ttard se.;.ts you s::,c. on. ,,. It was quite ft L::ir sized J-:,us - ai,out 50. 'l'om0 ,lil"I t,H L -.Cor years. �- You had a good service? A. We had more entert;-,inrnen t in this vi l h i:e yecrs · ·· gc than we h;; ve now. We nave nothing in our villf-,ge. T:1,:re was a Young Wornen' s ;, ssoc i.stion, Youth Clubs, Co-operat:ive \fomen I s fruild, Churcl"t Guj_ld, "foe H. We !,,id a Wl1ist Drive every :--reunesdny nigi;t, you coo.let s:iave u Whist Drjve every }'riday night, ma.yte a drsuce, wnist &.nd tea - different L°d.E:··s. 'l'nere is ttlis c;.urch hall :,ere, i:oDcl I object to it sor,etimes ti::e noise I get. I can't gflt slee1,ing. Satur...c.,ys r�nd Sunrle.ys I c 1 on' t go to Lee\ until 2 or 3 o 'cloc!, in the r;orning someti!ues. .. .;.. 12. I ,,ave only protested o.nce &nd +,,,at was � Satur,:ay ni?l1t, rcnd I 'p: oned ti'1e police in the Town Ceu 1-,re ,�nc1 s::,.j_d t,lw.t I t.,,ought. ti·Le ?abbe .. t!.� started at 12 o'clock - but not now - 3 o'clr,cl,: t•iat raorning E.nd jt was still going. I can reme!llber our iast Gance was about :,alf-eleven t:1is is your last ac.11:1ce. .-·e did say to me he could not um1erstr,nd !tow I was l1ec.ring j t so loud. /',ne ni,ght, a Fr.:day ,lik�ht I t11id,: it is, it is an Orange Club th.::t comes in practising 1:,,eir ·;,::-,nd - drrnns. I ar:·1 ; 1 :oi'.'./{ to see about getting double glazing in my bedroom for next winter. We did have more e.-,tert. irn.ient ti,an we i,ave now. N:,tting serious. I menn we nad L:.itch keys. \le ,iidn I t have locks on our noors - just the lc.tctl th, .. t you lifted up und walked in. Hy son, he was a Youtlc Club Leader 1·,ere :in the c ·.arch .::,ud 1''lo wr::s a Brownie, ,0111.e was a '.1.Ii., H&ra�ret was c:. ·rr:,w11ie Leader. 'Li"ey were c'll connected to ·U,e c,1urch. When my son went to MancLester, 11e st;:-..rted a Youth Club �own t,,ere ,'ti.c, t.,,e poljcernt.n gave him a baton to carry about. He never nee,.,ed it. Whet:·,er it w&s because iie was Scottish they took t0 l:im rig,1t awa:v. r.:.e .r:1c,d o. gre::.t Yonth Club. Q. In tile old dr.1ys t;:;ere was not all tue ,.,rohlems we have today? ..:\. Mischieviuss - 1na.ybe sorne of the toys ,vould l1ave rabbi ts, pets, &.ncl smuehody wot-lcl raid ti",em., nr pigeons - nothing serious. I never knew of any tll'ec,k-ins. Q. What about policing: in the vil la.2:e�· r. .t::..o We bad () "- policemen on duty. \'-le Lo.ad a pclice stc.tion in the vill61_re, wi1ere the lawyer's pl.-..ce is now. 1'.here was Nr. Gibson. Re was there for years and years, "Hoot'' we called f,im. Why? I d ori.' t know. Then t,�erewas a policeman came oown fror,1 Dullatur. Tn.ere 1•1as always a police 110use at Dnllatur. We never needed the policemen. We used to play what we cd.led "Kick the Can" in front of the pr,lice station in t!.1e Wynd. That was ..ow we spent onr t:ime. We :,e _'_owlinir Green. Sl,E ,:ad oeen a bowler ant� sl1e got a specj a 1 invitation to come to the D· ening Day. Everyone said how well she lool-·ea, hut I said "No, I 0011' t t::uow wrn, t it :is but slie does r.ot look well todi:iy", so w;"e" we cE.irne cn,t tbe Club House togeti:er she wiis in t;.e i,abi t of :roi!1g to my daughter's wl;o liver1 just 2cross the ro!lcl fr·or;; her for �:er me::,ls becc!.use she icad not been feeding herself. She �:::..d t;_,;,en ill and tl1ey tbou�ht it was mE:ot::-;er was still 011 the ground. 'l'hey would have l·:&d her u;:, jf sbe :1ad heen alive. nyi1ody who WDS ill - no lime f._t ull. Yes, tLe old clnb - ::-,cross -fro.;1 the Sr.,ur [--ntel. I pl;.,yed foi' trie Connty L=,st ye::u. J started L,ere too . q_. Was t: ere uot a }'robl<•111 Rhout luch es pl.s.ying howls? .. ;. In the enrly rlays it was sn-;_·,po::se/- one week and )0/- t'1e next. Q. ifny was -Lat? ;·,. Well, you subbed - wnat, was cE,lled a sub-week ;:-ind <• pay week. You subbed the 25/- one wee'.-: s.nd £1 the next weel,. (). You are r·eally talking r;.bf,at £2.5/- a fortnigllt':' 1 q. Was there much keeping of pi�eons in this in my mind talking t,bout r&ilway men. l0cr-e t ( <"rea? I was fassocif•ting it ,•.. Oh, yes. Hy l:.usr,r-.1.nd w;;.s a grc:at pigeon r�&n. I don't tt,int; t:-,ey h.ad r�cing �igeons e&rly on. It was sort of •-et birJs. �Y brotners Ell had wee doocot.si:,nct the Jti tchies h.sd doocots, E.nd tl,ey used to swap bi�·ds, but ny own husband tt1ey were into pigeon r&cins-r. 'i't1ey Jwd a bird whicn wc.s quite welfl u:, in t'.,eir ? racn,. It was mostly Condorrut. I don't ren1emter e.n:: r :11,d·r w.li.o !.1ad pi;eons for rKcing in Cm1bernauld. Ye�rs bnd ye�rs ��o it was Just pets �a� rd,bits. 1.;:. It was a sore point lmmclJing pigeon racin.[� i:.1 Condorrat? My J�usbtmd was frienc11�/ with the heids in Condorrat, and I rememLer one of ti1e men from Condorr.::-.·t sayin(! to me ti-iat vou must ue well-lrnown lJecnuse no110�·;s else got into the c1oocot ,mci. Alec i!nd got in. 'i. Tnlking :-,bout doncots, &re you rememl·•ering bie Gameker:per's doocot at ti1e hi;,; house? Was the do ocot in ,1se in these dc:ys? A. 'l'he pigeons flew out. :rr brother ,,;';1:0 to s110ot wile ur tor 0:Je o' cluck r"c.d,; to go .fe use:d to ;;o :.'.or t�le first week af !:,he I',·lkirk ?u�l' to .:-1.::erfelct -' :for Whr;t aho11t you o.s a youn.;ster < 1 ,�. No. 'l'.i'"ere 1,ere no ":-.nses - very few buses. 'J.':,e f'nly '-.ns we would Fee in c-nr v:UL,_.c,e at one tjme ,,1-,p -•. �;e Eus:,r-Osie. 0. Yon {;id not go to Gh:s�ow <> You woul< 1 :,ave tr: go on t.t-i P train" Well, we <"1id go 011 t11e trsin. .r-iy Fat.i·:0r usefl tc get. free passes on II Fatter would i'tave free p.::.sscs, c-n,,. I c:,n remernLE:r g,-ing to ObE.n on the train. 1 can always rememb(,r going intc, ttis .-ree tearoom aml yon luiow wi1en you were cl-,ilGren ·we wonted thif'. and t.tat, and ,:_iy ;,•ot;·er suic' "Come on, out of :.ere. We will need to send for t!:e .. policeua11. 'l'nere were w,�c scones anc w:-icd, 2 }-'Tic,· tley were. c:=.ey wnulcl not be expensive but too dea:r :!.'or 1:.s. w,,at we neeclerl with us. 1 -·rnther day ,�an remernbe1•, I Wi·,uL, be c.; b,_,P.t 15. "Duchess of Montrose" rnunt.1 t,:r� loci:s witb a fT ee _nnss from the railway. J tt�ink we nserl to go to Prestwick qu.ite "- bit because my Father had sisters lived tPere, and we t....sed to fl"O 1.:·•ere by t;-o_in. We never went a.botlt, - ,_-.ot like now wLen I would maybe 2ay tJ-,at jf it is a nice c-iay I will be aw&.--; tc FalLirk for a run or Stirlin/: r You could not do t�at in ttese days. Did your Father remember t;1e cra:st; c:,t Cast.le Caiy. I can rememher t!:te -:-rr-.ei'.. £,t Castle Car:.r. I cune home witn ,:,be railway men tt;at nigl"lt. We cnne ecross the brid.q:e about 5 minutes before tiie actnal crash becfluse we i"Lad to run tv catcL t::e hns that nigl�t an::! 1�i1e only reason w,,y we got the !ms tJ__;u t ni1l:11t w&s it w ... s snc,wing. \fe cottlc1 .:.,E.rdly see for $now, and -uie 'bus had sto;)ped, und one persr,n �cad got on to it and t1;ey were !,olding it 1,�) for tiie was to Cumberru = ,.uld wnen t,-�-;- crash i![ppened because my brother wl10 a railwtty nirm, Llohn, he wns ti ere ;,:n.d l:·e worked wit.i": c: Mr-. Taylor, �--( v., ,. { <; was tl.1e Ham,gf:r of --0-t�&:ms Brickworks and hel ;;eil to take some of tl1e dead ant' injurer: out. Jl-:y :-.rot-er next tone, ,�o}y_r-t, he hadXrXJ.1egone anC:: he had Lel,Jed to bring so!llebody out an( tbou;f:(ht :it ,,,·,_s somebody fro1:1 the Langriggs, and ,-,hen he ,-ras put into tLis rilace wI:-,.ere e.11 tt.e dead were lying, lie had to cor,1e Lome. iJe was r-eally upset ahont it, hut my brotLer, John, he was well rPcommendeil f'or W; :=1t. he .�id t.ot Gi.0:Lt witl1 \ c---t?--� 1,-j-/ rn. Did U-,ey ever J'inc'l the actmcl ex)la.nation .tor what i1n.prenH1? They actually blam eel it on &. mc,n drunk because he wn.s cl emoted. I' ,,e was put into Queen Stt·cct. I can I t remenl.Jer n1s ua.n:e. Mind :,rou, I thou,7:ht the train was out _of i,is sectjon. Q. I tiliJJk it we.s a comhin::;.ti(,n of tl1e 1:,ad weatLe1· ,c;.•., well anc'l had visibility. He had severc:,l tTains all bacterl up. Q. \vlwre were these people from? We· e tiiey local? 11.• We Lad one !'!i'n1 who was frnn Dullatnr, a Mr. Arthur 1 :/ilson ••....•.. ·'?? 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