# tactiq.io free youtube transcript # Reckless Ben Breaks Silence on LEGO Lawsuit, Getting Arrested, & Losing Everything # https://www.youtube.com/watch/ZRZ7J6SIVZs 00:00:00.080 Hi. How's it going? So, basically, my 00:00:02.320 friend said that uh you guys have some 00:00:04.640 of his Legos. 00:00:05.359 >> Years ago, I had to leave now. 00:00:06.799 >> This story is so much bigger than just 00:00:08.960 stealing $200,000 worth of Lego. 00:00:11.200 >> Tonight's story began with a missing 00:00:12.800 Lego collection and ended with a SWAT 00:00:15.120 raid. 00:00:16.640 >> What charges are you facing right now? 00:00:18.480 Oh my gosh. Okay, we got so much. We got 00:00:20.720 criminal stalking when I tried to start 00:00:22.800 from court papers. Cyber stalking when I 00:00:24.720 made the GoFundMe. I've already been to 00:00:26.320 court, I think, three times for each of 00:00:27.840 those. And those court cases could drag 00:00:30.320 out to 2 years. I'm in a lawsuit right 00:00:32.640 now. The lawyers are saying $10 million 00:00:35.760 minimum. 00:00:36.399 >> Are you stressed out right now with the 00:00:37.840 lawsuits? 00:00:38.640 >> No, it's fun. I love it. 00:00:40.000 >> Well, it's exactly the same. 00:00:41.760 >> Their logic is if I'm in jail, I can't 00:00:43.920 release my documentary and then they get 00:00:45.520 away with their crimes. 00:00:46.480 >> It seems like they've done anything and 00:00:48.079 everything to stop you. 00:00:49.200 >> We play differently here. 00:00:50.480 >> This is a classic example of corporate 00:00:52.239 greed working with a lot of money using 00:00:54.480 the cops to sweep a crime under the rug. 00:00:56.640 These are sets he has not been paid for. 00:00:59.120 >> They're not going to get away with this. 00:01:00.719 >> I am no longer allowed to even mention 00:01:03.199 this mystery company or I will be in 00:01:06.000 jail. 00:01:06.400 >> They're trying to silence me right now, 00:01:08.080 but I'm just going to come out and say 00:01:10.240 all of their secrets that they don't 00:01:11.520 want you to know. 00:01:15.760 >> Reckless Ben, thank you so much for 00:01:17.200 coming on the ice coffee hour. 00:01:18.640 >> Oh, yeah. Well, thanks for having me. 00:01:20.080 This This place is sick. 00:01:21.840 >> Thank you. You have created arguably the 00:01:24.000 number one story of 2026. I never 00:01:26.479 thought I would be so invested. I'm not 00:01:28.560 going to lie. YouTube recommended me 00:01:30.159 this video maybe 20 times, but I saw 00:01:33.280 $200,000 worth of Lego stolen and I 00:01:36.079 honestly could not care less. And then 00:01:37.600 Graham said, "You need to watch this 00:01:39.680 series. It's insane." And I watched the 00:01:42.560 first episode in 10 minutes. I was 00:01:44.079 completely hooked. It almost has nothing 00:01:46.640 to do with Lego. 00:01:48.320 >> Yeah. Um I I feel you on that. I would 00:01:50.720 never ever click on a video, like an 00:01:52.320 hour and a half long video on Legos 00:01:53.920 either. I was kind of just banking off 00:01:55.680 the fact I kind of exactly what you said 00:01:57.360 like one or two people will see it and 00:01:59.119 they're just going to tell everyone 00:02:00.240 about it, you know, and then they 00:02:02.000 finally watch it and they tell their 00:02:03.200 friends. I was like, "Okay, they'll 00:02:04.159 it'll just like it's not a good hook, 00:02:05.759 but it'll spread, you know." 00:02:07.040 >> I need to correct you right there 00:02:08.000 because it's not actually Legos. It's 00:02:10.160 actually just Lego. 00:02:11.120 >> Yeah. A lot of people have been saying 00:02:12.239 that it's like deer is what they say. 00:02:14.400 You don't say. Yeah. You don't say 00:02:15.599 deers, you just say deer. But it seems 00:02:17.599 weird to be like, "Hey, can you please 00:02:19.920 give me the Lego back?" Because then I 00:02:21.680 think like, oh, there's just he stole 00:02:23.040 one piece of Lego. I'd agree with you on 00:02:25.360 that. 00:02:25.599 >> I don't know if a singular Lego piece 00:02:26.959 can be worth $200,000. 00:02:30.319 There are there's a gold uh brick that's 00:02:33.120 worth a lot of money. And some of the 00:02:34.480 minifigures are worth substantial. Is 00:02:36.319 >> it actually gold? It better be gold. 00:02:38.160 $200,000. 00:02:38.879 >> Yes, I believe they only made six in the 00:02:40.640 world. 00:02:41.280 >> Whoa. 24 karat gold. 00:02:43.519 >> Maybe you should buy it. Good 00:02:44.319 alternative investment. Beat your 00:02:45.760 portfolio. I know international index 00:02:47.440 one. Good luck. Anyways, $200,000 of 00:02:50.560 Lego was stolen. What do people think 00:02:52.160 this is about and what is it actually 00:02:53.760 about? I 00:02:54.800 >> I guess like from the clickbait, you're 00:02:57.040 like, "Oh, I'm going to get a thing into 00:02:58.640 like Legos and so I don't really care 00:03:00.319 about Legos. Like maybe I won't watch 00:03:01.599 it, you know?" But when you actually 00:03:03.120 like watch it, it's about corporate 00:03:05.680 greed and like a like a corporate entity 00:03:08.480 that's in the wrong bullying the little 00:03:10.239 guy because they can, you know, because 00:03:12.000 they have power and they can get away 00:03:13.120 with it. Even though they're not right, 00:03:14.720 they can get away with it. And it's kind 00:03:17.440 of a theme of like our justice system of 00:03:20.720 like cuz you're taught growing up, oh, 00:03:22.640 if you're in the right, you'll win. If 00:03:24.400 you're in the wrong, you'll get 00:03:25.360 punished. But throughout this video, you 00:03:28.000 kind of see it's like whoever has more 00:03:29.680 money, they kind of maybe get this like 00:03:32.239 it goes their way. And then if you don't 00:03:33.680 have money, even if you're morally and 00:03:35.200 legally in the right, you can get 00:03:36.640 screwed over just because you don't have 00:03:38.080 the resources to fight. What charges are 00:03:40.799 you facing right now? 00:03:42.239 >> Oh my gosh. Okay, we got so much. We got 00:03:44.959 uh criminal stalking when I tried to 00:03:47.120 serve in court papers. Cyber stalking 00:03:49.280 when I made the GoFundMe. I've already 00:03:51.519 been to court I think three times for 00:03:53.040 each of those and those court cases 00:03:55.360 could drag out to two years. So that's 00:03:57.280 the criminal side. Um we got I'm in a 00:04:01.120 lawsuit right now. The lawyers are 00:04:03.120 saying $10 million minimum for me and my 00:04:06.400 friends what we're going to have to pay 00:04:08.319 uh if we lose. But I think we we're 00:04:11.280 going to try and fight that. Obviously, 00:04:12.799 we got the TTRO um which could be a real 00:04:16.399 restraining order. I got a second 00:04:18.079 restraining order coming. They haven't 00:04:19.440 served me yet. I'm still I don't want to 00:04:22.000 say on the run, but uh they they are not 00:04:25.280 they have we'll just say they haven't 00:04:26.479 served me yet. Uh 00:04:28.240 >> that coming. Yeah. Um so that's coming. 00:04:31.440 I haven't been to my house since this 00:04:33.440 dropped because of first we had a 00:04:35.680 warrant for my arrest, but I got that 00:04:36.960 dropped. We're dealing with that in 00:04:38.320 court now. Uh then right when that got 00:04:40.720 dropped, I got a second restrain or the 00:04:42.800 first restraining order. So I was like, 00:04:44.160 I still can't show back up to my house. 00:04:45.840 Then right when they served me by email, 00:04:47.680 they have a second restraining order 00:04:49.680 that they're trying to serve on me. So 00:04:51.440 the police have just been after me this 00:04:52.720 entire time. Um they're trying to get me 00:04:54.880 with extortion because they're saying 00:04:56.960 that I told them if they don't give me 00:04:59.040 the Legos back, I'm going to burn their 00:05:00.639 corporate headquarters down and 00:05:02.240 everyone. So I guess that's extortion, 00:05:04.639 which is like super illegal. I didn't do 00:05:06.240 that. But there's 00:05:07.039 >> Where did they get that idea of? 00:05:09.440 >> So, basically, I I just go up to him. 00:05:11.919 I'm like, "Hey, I mean, you saw in the 00:05:14.080 video where I was like, "You want to do 00:05:15.199 this the easy way or the hard way?" You 00:05:16.800 know, like the easy way implying like 00:05:18.240 you can just give them the Legos back. 00:05:19.919 Like, you're obviously like not entitled 00:05:22.639 to like you didn't buy those. So, it 00:05:24.000 like won't hurt them to give them the 00:05:25.360 Legos back. That's the easy way. And the 00:05:27.120 hard way is like everything that's 00:05:28.320 happening now, you know? It's like we 00:05:29.360 take them to court. We show the world 00:05:32.240 that they stole the Legos and their 00:05:33.759 brand drops because of it. Like that's 00:05:35.199 the hard way. Uh but I think he thought 00:05:38.160 the hard way was I burned down the 00:05:40.000 building and everyone inside is what he 00:05:41.759 took that as. 00:05:42.479 >> That's the hard way. That's what he's I 00:05:44.320 mean I told him I was like hey like once 00:05:46.639 we make a documentary on this like it's 00:05:48.240 not going to be good for your brand is 00:05:49.280 what I said. But he took that as I'm 00:05:51.440 going to burn down the building and 00:05:52.560 everyone inside. And so immediately 00:05:54.800 after I talked to him like I have the 00:05:56.479 body cam footage. He goes and like I 00:05:58.479 have the security camera footage of the 00:06:00.160 corporate headquarters because it was in 00:06:01.280 discovery. And he just immediately calls 00:06:03.199 the police. She's like, "Hey, this 00:06:04.960 YouTuber just came in and say he's going 00:06:06.160 to burn down our building." I'm like, 00:06:07.280 "What? Like, what?" 00:06:08.160 >> Wow. 00:06:08.560 >> And then I submitted all the raw footage 00:06:09.919 to the police that shows that I didn't 00:06:12.000 do that. Like, you can see I go up the 00:06:13.600 elevator. I talked to him and I go down 00:06:14.960 the elevator back to my car. No cuts. I 00:06:16.880 submitted that whole raw footage to the 00:06:18.400 police. I'm like, I don't know where 00:06:20.000 he's getting this. And the police looked 00:06:21.680 at it and then they still charged me. 00:06:23.840 Anyways, 00:06:24.560 >> how much money have you spent so far on 00:06:26.560 lawyers? I 00:06:27.360 >> want to say about 750 to 70,000 I think. 00:06:31.600 I feel like it'd be in a lawyer's best 00:06:32.960 interest to help you out for free 00:06:34.800 because they would get so much 00:06:35.919 publicity. 00:06:36.960 >> So, 00:06:38.479 everyone advising me has said don't do 00:06:40.639 that because the people that are in it 00:06:43.360 for free are probably not going to do 00:06:44.560 the best job. They're doing it more for 00:06:46.560 publicity and not necessarily to win. 00:06:49.360 So, they I've been because at first I 00:06:52.319 thought the same thing, but basically 00:06:53.919 everyone I talked to says make sure you 00:06:56.479 don't get a lawyer for free. Make sure 00:06:57.840 you pay them because then there's like 00:06:59.680 accountability if they don't do the 00:07:01.039 right thing. It's like, "Oh, I paid 00:07:02.160 you." You know, where there's kind of an 00:07:04.000 out if they do it for free like, "Hey, 00:07:05.360 he's not paying me so maybe I don't have 00:07:07.039 to go above and beyond." 00:07:08.479 >> I agree with that. How did you first 00:07:10.319 discover the story about missing Lego? 00:07:13.039 >> So, I just put at the end of my previous 00:07:15.039 video, I said, "Hey, if you have a 00:07:17.120 problem that the police can't solve, uh, 00:07:20.160 email me this email." And I had made a 00:07:23.440 whole email just for ideas. and I got 00:07:25.440 probably like 10,000 like email ideas 00:07:28.560 and I posted it on the way to Burning 00:07:30.720 Man and then it started raining and so 00:07:33.280 it was like muddy at Burning Man. It was 00:07:34.639 like a 24 26 hour wait to get inside. So 00:07:37.680 me and my friends were just going 00:07:38.720 through all the ideas and we would just 00:07:40.720 like start all the ones that we thought 00:07:42.080 were the best and we came up with like 00:07:44.639 20 ideas that we started on. And some of 00:07:46.400 them didn't really work out because like 00:07:48.720 as you could tell like when I first did 00:07:50.479 the Lego video, the first thing I do is 00:07:52.560 I walk to Bricks and Bin Figs and I'm 00:07:54.240 like I just want to hear their side of 00:07:55.280 the story, you know, and then obviously 00:07:57.120 they kick me out and they like get upset 00:07:59.360 at me. So a couple of the video ideas 00:08:01.120 were like okay let's hear their side and 00:08:02.560 it's like oh well turns out this is kind 00:08:04.240 of a misunderstanding or something or 00:08:05.599 like I guess they weren't actually the 00:08:06.639 bad guys, you know? So that happened a 00:08:08.800 couple video ideas and the bricks and 00:08:11.199 minifigs was kind of just one of the 00:08:13.599 ones where I was like, "Okay, let me 00:08:15.199 hear their side." And they just got 00:08:16.160 super upset at me. So I was like, "Okay, 00:08:17.280 let me just keep pursuing this," you 00:08:18.560 know, cuz uh it seemed like there was 00:08:20.720 like a huge injustice. So I was like, 00:08:22.400 "Okay, I'll just keep doing this." You 00:08:24.479 know? 00:08:24.720 >> What were some of the other ideas that 00:08:26.319 people sent in? 00:08:27.919 >> Oh my gosh, there were some amazing 00:08:29.440 ones. Uh like what's the craziest one? 00:08:31.360 Cuz I'd imagine if you just say, "Hey, 00:08:32.958 give me a case the police can't solve." 00:08:35.360 You're going to get like 00:08:36.880 >> Yeah. 00:08:37.679 >> Wild stories. 00:08:38.799 >> Well, I'm currently working on 12 of 00:08:40.559 them side by side. A lot of them I'm 00:08:42.399 still undercover. So, I don't really 00:08:43.679 want to at least on the record not go 00:08:46.399 into them yet because then all the 00:08:48.080 audience, it just takes one troll in the 00:08:50.000 audience to be like, "Oh, I'm going to 00:08:52.000 tell this company that Ben's undercover 00:08:53.600 in them right now, you know, and and 00:08:55.200 then it ruins the whole thing and I'm 00:08:56.880 like I'm like deep in some of them, you 00:08:58.720 know. Tell us the ones though that 00:08:59.920 you're not doing that were just crazy. 00:09:02.560 >> Um like are you getting like cases? 00:09:05.600 >> I'd say like slightly below that. Um 00:09:09.279 >> you might have to censor this one out. I 00:09:11.040 I can tell you. But maybe just put like 00:09:12.640 a sensor over it or something like a 00:09:14.240 bleep or I don't know or silence it. But 00:09:16.560 uh this is one of the cool ones I'm 00:09:17.920 working on. There was this guy 00:09:32.959 It's like literally the exact same plot 00:09:34.880 line as the Lego video. And so we go in, 00:09:37.040 we're like, "Hey, we solved this case 00:09:38.880 for you, you know, and they're like, "If 00:09:40.240 you don't leave right now, we're calling 00:09:41.440 the cops on you." And now I'm like 00:09:42.880 completely in this. This is like one of 00:09:44.800 the most horrible things I've heard in a 00:09:46.800 long time. That's what I'm saying. It's 00:09:48.000 like it's like a few steps down from 00:09:49.920 some of the things that I see you do are 00:09:52.399 like I would say categorically genius. 00:09:54.800 Like being able to come up with we steal 00:09:57.040 from old people is the company name and 00:09:59.200 the tagline is bricks and mini figs. 00:10:01.600 Doing that or like you know covering up 00:10:04.080 their sign and getting this woman to 00:10:06.320 sign a document 00:10:07.839 >> like months in advance before you 00:10:10.880 actually ended up using it because you 00:10:12.240 were posing as like a FedEx delivery 00:10:13.920 person or whatever. all of these things. 00:10:15.839 It's like layer, it's like a game of 00:10:17.440 chess. Move after move after move after 00:10:19.920 move. I'm curious, what would you say 00:10:22.399 your like actual value is? Like your 00:10:24.560 skill set? Like what do you attribute 00:10:26.480 this to? Are you like a a PI, an 00:10:29.600 investigator, like a detective? I 00:10:31.839 actually like the chess analogy and I 00:10:33.519 use that analogy a lot. I'm like, this 00:10:34.959 is like a game of chess and the way I 00:10:37.200 win is the unpredictability. So, I like 00:10:41.200 chess a lot. I go to chess club every 00:10:42.800 Thursday, but it's like, okay, so if I 00:10:45.519 play like a normal like E4 opening, you 00:10:47.600 know, and stuff, and you play a normal 00:10:49.200 opening, it's it's like I might win, I 00:10:51.839 might lose if we're like the same skill 00:10:53.040 level, you know, but say I I have like 00:10:55.680 someone who's just like a beginner at 00:10:57.200 chess and doesn't know anything and they 00:10:58.480 just make some really weird moves I've 00:11:00.880 never seen before. They might beat me 00:11:02.880 just because of how weird they're 00:11:04.560 playing and I don't know how to like 00:11:05.760 counteract like counter their moves, you 00:11:07.600 know? So, I kind of do the same thing. 00:11:08.959 And I'm like, "Okay, I'm going to cope 00:11:11.200 with some weird like strategy that's so 00:11:13.279 outside of the box. You're never going 00:11:14.800 to see it coming." And even though it's 00:11:16.320 the stupidest thing ever, I might like 00:11:19.440 beat you because you won't know how to 00:11:21.360 react. You know, it's like this is like 00:11:23.600 you're right. Like the thing where I'm 00:11:25.360 like the FedEx thing or something like 00:11:27.519 they didn't know how to react when they 00:11:28.959 saw that signed document. So they 00:11:30.240 literally would just close their store. 00:11:31.360 Like they stopped calling the cops on me 00:11:32.640 and they would just close their store 00:11:33.680 down and were like, "Yes, like we won." 00:11:35.600 You know, because it wasn't like a good 00:11:37.120 idea at all. Like it was a terrible 00:11:38.240 idea. but they just didn't see it 00:11:40.000 coming, so they didn't know how to react 00:11:41.040 to it and it worked. 00:11:42.320 >> So, how were the Lego sets missing? 00:11:44.399 >> It's kind of being debated how much the 00:11:46.000 Lego sets were actually worth. And he 00:11:47.680 already got paid out $17,000 from the 00:11:49.519 previous owner. So, he wasn't owed 00:11:51.279 $200,000, but that's just an easy number 00:11:53.680 to use. But he puts his Lego sets in the 00:11:56.560 store and the store didn't have enough 00:11:58.399 money to buy them from him. So, they 00:11:59.839 said, "Let's do a consignment." So, 00:12:01.680 they're still your LEGO sets, but every 00:12:03.519 time one gets sold, you keep like 70% or 00:12:07.040 whatever, how much percent they're 00:12:08.399 giving him, and we'll keep like the 00:12:09.760 other percent, you know, as a thank you 00:12:11.600 for like selling them for us. And so, 00:12:14.639 it's working out fine. He already got 00:12:16.240 paid $17,000 in this, so every time gets 00:12:20.880 sold, he'd get the majority of the 00:12:22.000 money. They keep a small amount, but 00:12:24.079 then corporate comes over and takes over 00:12:26.079 the store. for whatever reason that's 00:12:28.800 not really any of Brian's or Mai's 00:12:30.959 business. I guess there was a business 00:12:32.079 dispute that's completely unrelated. Uh 00:12:34.399 so they take over the store and they 00:12:36.399 said everything in the store is now ours 00:12:40.160 including these sets that weren't the 00:12:41.839 stores to give him. You know, it'd be 00:12:42.959 similar if I parked my car in their 00:12:44.560 parking lot. Like they don't just get my 00:12:46.000 car like it's not their car. Yeah. Yeah. 00:12:50.399 >> So his uh his Legos are kind of like 00:12:53.120 Yeah. car parked in the parking lot. 00:12:54.480 they don't just get his Legos, but 00:12:56.320 they're claiming they do. So when he 00:12:58.000 shows up, he's like, "Hey, can I my 00:12:59.440 Legos back?" And they say, "No, these 00:13:00.880 are our Legos now. This is our 00:13:02.240 inventory." And he's like, "What do you 00:13:05.200 mean?" And like, "Well, you he's like, 00:13:06.560 "I have this contract." And like, "Well, 00:13:08.240 we're not a part of this contract. In 00:13:09.519 order for us to be under an agreement, 00:13:10.639 we have to sign something. And we didn't 00:13:12.399 sign this contract. So, we don't have to 00:13:13.440 listen. We don't have to follow the 00:13:14.399 contract because we didn't sign it." And 00:13:17.200 but what they are failing to understand 00:13:19.440 is when they take over the business, 00:13:20.959 they take over any of the agreements 00:13:22.480 that are in the business, including that 00:13:24.399 contract. So since they took over the 00:13:25.680 business, they are taking over that 00:13:26.639 contract now. Which their response to 00:13:29.279 that is, well, if you want your Legos 00:13:31.200 back, you can sue us, but by suing us, 00:13:33.279 you'll spend more money on court than 00:13:34.800 your collection's even worth, and you'll 00:13:36.399 just lose money. So you'll lose time, 00:13:38.240 money. It'd be much easier if you just 00:13:39.839 let us keep the Lego sets. And that's 00:13:42.000 where he was at. And why did this video 00:13:43.839 then break the internet if it seems like 00:13:45.600 it's just someone stealing Lego? 00:13:47.760 >> I think because of the last sentence I 00:13:50.800 just said. So the corporation says, "We 00:13:53.519 know we're in the wrong, but we can get 00:13:56.079 away with this because we have money and 00:13:58.000 you don't." And I think people are tired 00:14:01.600 of like big corporations like hurting 00:14:04.079 the little guy. You know, it's like the 00:14:05.440 punching down. You know, people hate 00:14:06.800 that. And so I basically went to Brian. 00:14:10.079 I was like, "Hey, you know what? we're 00:14:11.600 going to stand up to this company and 00:14:12.880 show them that the little guy can't get 00:14:14.959 bullied anymore, you know? And I didn't 00:14:17.360 do it from like a Mr. Beast perspective 00:14:19.040 where I was like, "Okay, we're going to 00:14:20.399 like pour all this money and like do all 00:14:22.000 this like stuff." Cuz then it wouldn't 00:14:23.839 have had the impact of like the little 00:14:25.440 guy standing up to the big guy. Like I 00:14:26.720 did it from the like from the story of, 00:14:29.680 "Okay, we have no resources. How can we 00:14:32.320 use our creativity to take down this big 00:14:34.240 company, you know?" And it kind of 00:14:36.160 really relates to people that like don't 00:14:39.040 have resources and can't stand up. And 00:14:41.120 so I think the message is really like if 00:14:42.720 you're creative and if you like really 00:14:44.959 put your mind into it, you can stand up 00:14:46.160 to the big guy. You just have to like be 00:14:47.680 creative and like make a voice, you 00:14:49.600 know, speaking how the little guy can 00:14:51.519 win. Me being a little guy, I suppose, I 00:14:55.760 tried to find out if any public company 00:14:58.320 had interest in bricks and minifig so I 00:15:00.079 could short it and I couldn't find it. 00:15:01.920 >> We were we were joking about that right 00:15:03.519 before we posted the video. Oh yeah, 00:15:04.720 it's not publicly traded. 00:15:05.760 >> I I wanted to do like a Chris Camilillo 00:15:07.519 social arbitrage trade and I I'm like 00:15:09.760 aware of all this information this 00:15:11.120 company's getting hit with like, you 00:15:12.399 know, they have to spend all this money 00:15:13.600 on lawsuits. They're getting all this 00:15:14.880 negative press. I'm like, I can short 00:15:16.480 this company and make a lot of money. 00:15:18.000 No, there's no public interest. 00:15:19.199 >> Yeah, we we were definitely joking about 00:15:20.959 that right before we posted the video. 00:15:22.800 We actually looked it up and then we 00:15:24.000 were very disappointed when we saw that 00:15:25.600 there was I've never like invested in 00:15:27.360 stocks or anything my entire life, but 00:15:30.800 >> we're going to change that by the end of 00:15:32.079 this episode. We're going to change 00:15:33.199 that. 00:15:33.600 >> Dang. Yeah, I've never like invested in 00:15:35.519 anything. Uh um I think Okay, I invested 00:15:38.959 I think 20 bucks in Bitcoin like 00:15:42.079 right when it started and it turned to 00:15:43.680 like 500 bucks I think. But that's the 00:15:45.920 only time I've ever I was like I should 00:15:47.360 >> that didn't make you want to invest more 00:15:49.199 like 20xing your money. 00:15:50.880 >> I probably should have. Yeah. I don't 00:15:52.240 know. I just I I just like spending all 00:15:53.920 my money on videos. You like I don't 00:15:55.199 have money to invest. Uh I just all my 00:15:57.360 money I just put right back into the 00:15:58.560 videos. 00:15:58.959 >> How much do you spend per video? 00:16:02.720 >> Not a lot. I think there was like a less 00:16:04.880 than two. It was like we spent gas money 00:16:06.560 to get up there. That was the biggest 00:16:07.600 expense. And then the Airbnb and hotels 00:16:10.240 and then food. That's about it. 00:16:12.639 >> I I bought like maybe like 400 bucks of 00:16:14.880 Lego props. Like we brought like the 00:16:16.079 Lego costume. We brought some like Lego 00:16:18.639 like maybe like I'd say like probably 00:16:20.800 $2,000 budget maybe for the whole video. 00:16:22.639 >> Now, when you were filming this, was 00:16:23.759 there any moment where you thought maybe 00:16:25.519 I could be wrong? Now people put off 00:16:27.279 starting their LLC for months because 00:16:28.800 they picture some massive legal 00:16:30.240 headache. We're like talking, digging 00:16:31.759 through government websites, filling out 00:16:33.759 complicated paperwork, and in the end, 00:16:36.000 you still don't know if you did it 00:16:37.600 correctly. Well, that's why we partnered 00:16:39.199 with Northwest Registered agent. They 00:16:41.040 handle it all for you. 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So, I go to their store. 00:17:54.880 Then, they call the cops on me and 00:17:56.320 they're like, "Leave, leave, leave." So, 00:17:57.760 I'm there's nothing wrong. And I'm just 00:17:59.840 like, "Here's what happened. I'm just 00:18:01.440 here to share my experience." And I'm 00:18:02.880 not wrong in sharing my experience. So, 00:18:05.520 >> what do you think is the biggest 00:18:06.400 misconception people have about this 00:18:08.480 story? 00:18:09.840 >> Um, hm. 00:18:12.880 I don't know. There's the the spy 00:18:14.559 glasses. It uh has the wrong time stamp 00:18:17.360 in the bottom. It's like 2019. So, a lot 00:18:19.600 of the reaction channels watching it, 00:18:21.039 they're like, "He's been working on this 00:18:22.160 for seven years." Like, "What the heck?" 00:18:23.919 Like, "This is insane." I'm like, "No, 00:18:25.679 we" 00:18:27.440 And then they're like, "This and then 00:18:28.799 it'll be like 2020." And we used like 00:18:30.880 six or seven different pairs of spy 00:18:32.160 glasses. They all have different dates 00:18:33.280 to the bottom. So, it looks like we 00:18:34.480 filmed it over like six years or 00:18:35.840 something, but we really filmed it in 00:18:37.440 like four or five days. I don't know. 00:18:38.799 I'm trying to think the biggest 00:18:39.679 misconception. Um, like storyline wise, 00:18:42.880 I don't know. We just I I just tried to 00:18:44.880 be like, hey, like we went in and just 00:18:47.360 tried legal stuff, you know? We're like, 00:18:49.039 I don't know if this is going to work or 00:18:50.240 not. Uh, let's just try it. And, uh, we 00:18:54.080 just did it. Um, and we just shared our 00:18:56.160 experience, I guess. I guess, okay, the 00:18:57.679 biggest misconception I think is 00:18:59.520 everyone the entire time is saying like, 00:19:00.960 get a lawyer, get a lawyer. You know, 00:19:02.880 like like if you had a lawyer, you would 00:19:05.120 have solved this immediately. Well, 00:19:06.960 first off, Brian's wife is actually an 00:19:09.520 attorney, so we did have a lawyer with 00:19:11.760 us the entire time. And most of the 00:19:13.919 ideas we would pitch to her. She's like, 00:19:15.120 "That's the worst idea I've ever heard." 00:19:16.320 And we're like, "Sick, that means it's 00:19:17.520 going to be awesome." You know, cuz I've 00:19:19.200 always thought that like the ideas 00:19:21.280 lawyers gives are like really boring. 00:19:22.960 But at the same time, we wanted to do it 00:19:24.720 from the perspective of someone who 00:19:26.559 doesn't have resources for a lawyer, you 00:19:28.240 know, and because a lot of people, like 00:19:30.559 say I just like threw like $50,000 to 00:19:33.520 this video and we did it like the right 00:19:35.679 way and we got the Legos back like easy, 00:19:38.080 then the people watching at home are 00:19:39.520 like, "Oh, he could have only pulled 00:19:40.799 that off because he has money, you 00:19:42.880 know?" And it's not like inspiring me to 00:19:45.039 like stand up to my bully, you know? So, 00:19:46.799 I wanted to do it from like the point 00:19:48.240 like the from the perspective of someone 00:19:49.919 who literally has nothing, you know? 00:19:51.600 That way when you watch my videos it's 00:19:52.799 like there's no excuse. Like if I can do 00:19:54.720 it, you can do it. Like go out. I want 00:19:56.160 it to be inspiring for people, you know? 00:19:57.760 Like if I could do this with literally 00:19:59.200 nothing, you can stand up to your bully. 00:20:01.120 You can stand up to the person pushing 00:20:03.120 you around. And so how did it go from 00:20:05.360 something as simple as just standing up 00:20:06.960 to your bully and like wanting to make 00:20:09.600 something right? Some guy had his Legos 00:20:11.440 stolen. You just want to return his 00:20:13.360 Legos to you then being what would you 00:20:16.640 call like charged with six crimes? Like 00:20:19.280 how did how to bridge that gap? because 00:20:21.200 I'm sure a lot of people wondering are 00:20:22.799 so at the end of the first video I 00:20:24.480 wasn't charged with anything you know we 00:20:26.160 were just having fun I guess the cops 00:20:29.280 were kind of which makes sense like it 00:20:31.760 at the end of the day it is a civil 00:20:33.039 matter and the cops really aren't 00:20:34.240 supposed to get involved the cops were 00:20:35.840 kind of being dicks but we I talked to 00:20:38.720 the chief of police afterwards and he 00:20:40.640 said that uh the police messed up they 00:20:43.679 were given false information and wrote 00:20:45.679 false information in the police report 00:20:47.039 and since the police were going off the 00:20:48.640 information in the police report they 00:20:50.640 were going off false information. Didn't 00:20:52.080 know the whole story. So, they 00:20:54.559 apologized for that and they gave me 00:20:56.240 like a personal apology which I really 00:20:58.240 uh respected. And then it wasn't until 00:21:00.799 we went to Utah where things started 00:21:02.240 getting crazy. And I think this is once 00:21:05.679 they f So, the whole first video they 00:21:07.600 just thought I was some kid. Like 00:21:09.200 remember in the phone call he's like, 00:21:10.240 "Are you just some kid? Like this isn't 00:21:12.159 how the world works. Like you're just 00:21:13.840 some he's like are you young?" You know? 00:21:15.840 So they just thought I was some like 00:21:16.960 stupid idiot that they could like bully 00:21:18.480 around, you know? And then in the second 00:21:20.559 video, I think this one they find out on 00:21:22.000 my YouTube channel because when we did 00:21:23.760 the lawsuit, I had to like put all my 00:21:25.679 information in the lawsuit. And so I 00:21:27.679 think they were like, "Let's look this 00:21:28.960 kid up, you know, and they found my 00:21:30.320 YouTube channel." So they're like, 00:21:31.600 "Okay, this guy's doing a video on us." 00:21:33.440 And that's bad. So let's make up reasons 00:21:35.120 to get him arrested is what I think they 00:21:37.840 were trying to do. Um because why else 00:21:39.679 would they be acting like this? So, I 00:21:41.919 think they're just making up reasons to 00:21:43.919 get me thrown in jail because their 00:21:45.360 logic is if I'm in jail, I can't release 00:21:47.520 my documentary and then they get away 00:21:49.120 with their crimes. 00:21:50.240 >> So, it originated in Oregon. That's 00:21:52.720 where this whole like Yeah. the store 00:21:55.280 was that stole the Lego. And then you 00:21:57.360 went down to Utah because that's where 00:21:59.120 the 00:21:59.600 >> They closed the store. Yeah. And that's 00:22:01.200 where the owners live. 00:22:02.080 >> They closed the store and that's where 00:22:03.360 they live. And so, you're effectively 00:22:04.799 trying to create a lawsuit because you 00:22:07.600 couldn't sue for this exact infraction 00:22:09.360 because the store was closed or 00:22:10.320 whatever. So, you try to create a 00:22:11.440 secondary lawsuit of other people having 00:22:13.280 their sto their Lego stolen on 00:22:16.000 consignment from the same owner. It's a 00:22:18.320 little bit complicated. Just trying to 00:22:19.679 understand that's point, you know. Yeah. 00:22:22.080 It's like we're trying to make it 00:22:23.120 confusing and if it confuses you, it 00:22:24.880 probably confuses them and if they're 00:22:26.240 confused, then we win and we get the 00:22:28.000 Legos back. 00:22:28.720 >> And so, you you went all the way over to 00:22:30.320 Utah and then this is where the problems 00:22:32.000 really started happening because that's 00:22:33.600 when they started charging you with like 00:22:34.960 stalking and this and that. And I'm 00:22:38.080 curious 00:22:39.679 because Graham actually had an 00:22:41.039 interesting opinion on this. He said 00:22:42.559 that there's actually a fair argument to 00:22:44.640 be made of like, okay, this could be 00:22:47.039 cyberstalking or like in person 00:22:49.440 stalking. I want to hear what your 00:22:51.120 opinion is on the matter. 00:22:52.080 >> Yeah. See, I was thinking if the roles 00:22:54.159 were reversed 00:22:56.480 and some YouTuber comes to you, would 00:23:00.000 you think this is brave journalism or 00:23:02.880 would you think it borders harassment? 00:23:05.520 And I was 00:23:06.480 >> Did I steal 00:23:08.480 uh old man's collection and bully him? 00:23:12.000 >> I I think I think there's an argument to 00:23:13.840 be made because I'm I'm on your side 00:23:16.159 here, but I'm just trying to play 00:23:17.360 devil's advocate. I think there is an 00:23:18.799 argument to be made that this guy did 00:23:21.039 take over the store. The prior owner has 00:23:24.559 really poor recordkeeping. 00:23:26.960 A lot of this you can't prove without 00:23:30.640 forensic accounting and anything he says 00:23:33.520 is going to be used against him in a 00:23:34.880 lawsuit. 00:23:36.400 Uh that it's best for him to just shut 00:23:39.840 up and let the legal system kind of work 00:23:43.760 through its thing. I think it was really 00:23:46.640 irresponsible for him to say anything 00:23:48.880 and to make any threats or like 00:23:50.880 anything. He was great. He should have 00:23:52.960 >> It was It was amazing that Yeah, cuz 00:23:54.480 most people do just shut up and he was 00:23:55.760 just kept talking. 00:23:56.400 >> He was the one making threats to you. 00:23:57.679 You made threats to him. 00:23:59.200 >> So, I think he was an idiot. But I also 00:24:01.120 think there is an out there that he 00:24:03.120 could say, "Listen, the prior owner, I 00:24:04.640 have no idea what's going on with this. 00:24:06.640 Um, bring me, you know, some sort of 00:24:09.440 civil action or something, but until 00:24:11.200 then, I'm out of it. I don't know what's 00:24:12.799 going on. The prior owner, they're a 00:24:14.480 mess." And leave it at that. And then 00:24:17.360 maybe it wouldn't have gone to such an 00:24:18.799 extreme. 00:24:19.760 >> Yeah. Uh, but at the same time also like 00:24:21.440 the prior owner, she gave us pictures of 00:24:24.400 all of the Lego sets in the store still 00:24:26.240 when they were kicking her out. So there 00:24:28.640 was proof that at least a bunch of these 00:24:31.200 Lego sets were still in the store. And 00:24:33.360 so um, and he said like you guys can 00:24:36.159 have them back, you know, and then when 00:24:37.120 we show up, they just try to call the 00:24:38.320 cops on us. So um, like if it was truly 00:24:42.559 the previous owner, like I I I cut a lot 00:24:44.400 of this out of the video because I 00:24:45.600 thought it was kind of boring and it 00:24:46.720 didn't really lead to anything. But 00:24:48.159 there's a lot of parts in the video 00:24:49.279 where I'm trying to team up with him. 00:24:50.880 You know, I'm like,